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Posted: Fri Jul 13th, 2007 06:56 pm |
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I Need To Write A Play.
The Task Is:
Write A Script - A Short Play Which Educates And Entertains One Area Of Pakistan.
Can someone help me write it please?
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Jim
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Posted: Sat Jul 14th, 2007 02:57 am |
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Well, Techno, the trouble is you "Need to write a play" [I have edited the layout of this].
The topic (are you at school?) is extremely broad.
You need to brainstorm for a topic that will achieve the objective of the task (to educate and entertain). What do you think would achieve that end? What would grab people's attention in such a way as to educate them as well as entertain them in a specific region of Pakistan? What interests you to such a degree that you will be inspired to write such a play and achieve those ends? These things don't usually fall out of the sky, nor does someone who might write it for you!!!!
Good luck.
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Anubian Nights Theatre Co
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Posted: Sat Jul 14th, 2007 04:18 pm |
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Hi Techno - I have only been to Pakistan once (Lahore) so don't know too much about other areas, but I would think that at the moment a play about Kashmir would be very interesting. I once was comissioned by a Pakistani kathak dancer to write a play for him and one strand I never got around to looking at was the myths about the ancient city of Moen Jo Daro, which fascinated me.
Get on with it!
Best of luck TKl
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Posted: Sat Jul 14th, 2007 11:36 pm |
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Jim - 'The trouble is you...'
I think it is OK on this site to be quite direct, brutal and even provocative with members who one has got to know through their postings. Goodness knows I have been in some fabulous barneys here!
But for an aparently unproduced playwright, such as yourself, to be quite so high-handed to a total newcomer asking for help is unusual and a bit our of kilter with the underlying supportative mood here.
TKL
P.S. I can't seem to get into my writing i.d. as the password keeps failing so am posting on my producer i.d.. Sorry...
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Jim
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Posted: Sat Jul 14th, 2007 11:40 pm |
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ANT,
I think you're jumping at shadows....
You suggest I am pompous because I am unproduced: I can now claim to be an award-winning playwright.
I used to be a university teacher: my advice to him was sound. There is no easy way to find a topic. He has to find it himself and his work will more likely be better for that process. It was an awful topic to give a class [if that is the case].
And, if you looked at the punctuation, you might even see that my response was intended kindly! And helpful. Furthermore, in reaching your conclusions about my post, you have failed to look at the layout: there is a quotation format here, which would suggest that I am NOT saying "The trouble is you" [No full stop] but "The trouble is you 'Need [sic] to write a play' ". If you want to take issue with what is written, then look at it a little more closely. My lesson? Give the quotation system here a miss.
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Posted: Sun Jul 15th, 2007 12:00 am |
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Awards are very nice (I have many myself) but if no-one has seen your work on stage they aren't much use unless they come with large bursaries! But how nice of you to prove my point about your pompousness by going about being 'award winning'!
The use of bold type for the word 'you' was especially rude and I have no idea what you mean about your lack of punctuation.
I thought the choice of topic given was great - plenty of room for thought. I wish my teachers had asked me to write a play which 'educates and entertains one area of England'. I could have a field day with that.... hmmm, cheeses from Cheshire, silver moulding from Birmingham, tourists in London....
There is no nuance in cyberspace.
TKL
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Posted: Sun Jul 15th, 2007 12:01 am |
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Dear Techno,
It has been suggested that I have been nasty to you. Nothing could be further from my intentions.
Look at the advice I have suggested, advice that would apply to any form of writing [and I have more than 40 academic papers to my name]. I have always found it helpful myself. Especially the brainstorming advice.
Cheers,
Jim
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Posted: Sun Jul 15th, 2007 12:05 am |
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The use of bold type for the word 'you' was especially rude and I have no idea what you mean about your lack of punctuation.
Well, there you go! Read what is there: not what you think is there. And it wasn't a "lack of punctuation". There was no punctuation required because the statement went on to include the quotation.
This discussion is silly, and I object to your attacks on my person.
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Posted: Sun Jul 15th, 2007 12:15 am |
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Academia is not about writing to entertain a mass audience and minor awards from unheard of organisations count for very little when you and your agent are battling to get productions.
You seem very touchy but you will frankly have to get used to very harsh criticism about every word you write if you ever get a play on when the reviewers arrive...
If you would like to edit your first post to remove the bold remark which I felt was very unpleasant and remove your posts after my advice to the original poster about writing about Kashmir, I will be happy to remove mine.
TKL
P.S. 'Well, there you go! Read what is there: not what you think is there.' Err.... if you read your earliest post to me at 12.51 you will see that you have addressed me as 'Techno' which is the name of the OP rather than me, so I guess none of us are perfect....
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Posted: Sun Jul 15th, 2007 12:44 am |
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ANT wrote: "You seem very touchy but you will frankly have to get used to very harsh criticism about every word you write if you ever get a play on when the reviewers arrive...".
I have dealt for years with peer review. I don't need a lecture from you about criticism. If objecting to gratuitous insults from someone who reads into a post something which is not there is touchy then so be it. It's your problem not mine.
I have altered the original layout of my post. I stand by the intent and content of my original response.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17th, 2007 12:31 pm |
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Dear Techno:
Sorry about the spat above. Usually the responses are more supportive here and less imperious. When I think of what a good play is about, I usually think of characters and conflict. I don't know jack about Pakistan except my conservative Christian uncle used to run a hospital outside of Lahore and appallingly, Muslims would have to say they were Christian in order to get medical treatment. Horrible.
Anyway, I agree with Jim that it has to be interesting to you.
Dear Jim:
I agree with Anubian Nights about your post here and I think Anubian Nights' method in pointing it out to you was tactful. I realize you are much more clever than any one of us could hope to be. The competition on the coast of Australia for playwriting must be brutal! Perhaps you should find a forum for the truly great playwrights and leave those of us who have something left to learn about playwriting to be moderately respectful of each other.
Your friendly neighbourhood Swann
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Posted: Tue Jul 17th, 2007 07:44 pm |
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Dear Techno,
I am a very new playwright, but playwright I am, and very much learning the craft. I have been writing, though, for three decades. My first publication was 32 years ago. My intention was to help you - as I had helped many students - by suggesting you find your own direction by focussing on the set task. It was the sole purpose of my response. I hope it was some help. Writing a play has a range of elements and problems and challenges that are common to all forms of writing. Writer's block and getting started are two of those: and only the writer can overcome those problems. But writing plays has distinctive, technical issues, which I certainly would not feel I was in a position to give advice about.
If you have taken offense to my response, I would be surprised. But, if this is so, I am sorry that you have been subjected to such a diatribe as has emerged here, and for my part in it.
You have seen the worst aspects of debate here with Light and Swann reflecting on my character for daring to make my suggestions given my newness to playwrighting, and then for defending myself from the astonishing and offensive comments made.
If this were the tenor of this forum - and it clearly is not - I would be inclined to simply use the forum for what I could take out of it and not bother again with being a contributing member.
I repeat my message of the original response: good luck!
Jim
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