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Flawsy
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Posted: Mon Dec 10th, 2007 05:10 pm |
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I want to write the music, and maybe lyrics, for a musical. So, I'm looking for someone to write a play or work with me on a play you have already written.
This is the same as my last topic but I dont feel that I worded it well, and I want to push this because I want to get writing soon, or at least have somebody to work with soon!
Any replies are very welcome.
I would delete the last topic but it seems I'm not able!
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Jim_L
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Posted: Wed Dec 26th, 2007 08:07 pm |
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I'm not sure how to respond to your request but I thought it was interesting enough for me (a newbie writer & longtime songwriter/musican) to toss out a thought.
For a long time now, i've been looking for a keyboard player (I stink at keys) to assist me with ideas and to play the little bits I can't as well to bounce ideas off of for tunes (gotta be local, no computer- net stuff). As i'm slowly beginning work on a sequel to my first (and only) musical script, i'm relying more on the keys to 'hatch/inspire' ideas with.
I wish you luck finding a writer that you can 'gel' with you but I would think that it would be extremely hard to do so. For instance, a song I plan on writing will have a 'human' actor singing along with 2 wall mounted stuffed fish, and while it may be somewhat humorous, i plan on it being a serious tune lyric & music-wise.
As a newbie to scriptwriting, I'm mainly a songwriter so I guess I have an advantage over other non-songwriting scriptwriters who write musicals (???) as i create both the song & music, it's all one & the same to me and the story involved with the song plus what comes before the tune & after in the script to maintain consistency throughout. I can't see having a song there just to have a song. I see songs as having to forward the story or tell something about a character or their feelings. Even the Fish song I wrote, while seemingly there to have a laugh, also helps tell the audience what kind of nightly behavior goes on in the tavern. This is also reinforces other bits throughout the story.
So on a personal note, I would find it difficult to ask another to write a song (& lyrics) unless they have the same mindset and obviously, they would need to read the script and have a good understanding of what i'm trying to do.
I think it would be even more difficult to write a song for a script that's under construction. Sort of fitting a song in the story afterwards would be difficult, yes?
Here's another example, referencing my sequel again (what else can I do?). I want a song to start the play but there's going to be acting during the song, singing and talking with some differeing time signatures and stops in the music. It's xmas and 2 actors (ok, the tavernkeeper & his wife) enter the tavern & are rushing around with last minute stuff and movement/actions come into play during the song. So I've got to figure out the music, character actions, lyrics & dialog all at once and have it flow (I can't spell segway) into the story when done.
Ok, I'm done. I hope that made sense!
Good luck!
-Jim
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Posted: Thu Dec 27th, 2007 02:21 pm |
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Jim, Thanks for the reply!
The short answer is you sound brilliant and I would love to get in touch with you. E-mail address?
The longer answer is this:
As far as piano playing is concerned I am a complete amateur. I compose using a grand piano and a keyboard linked to my pc here because I know exactly what I'm doing, but I'm not by any means a top pianist. So, as you mentioned, I use the keyboard to bounce ideas about for tunes, but also importantly to me, harmonies. In case you were wondering, I'm a singer and I'm far more experienced with the vocal chords than the piano chords.
I think that you and I could be quite similar, in the experience with songwriting and lack of' with scriptwriting.
I feel the same about music in the theatre and that a song isn't there just for the composer to show off his talents, but it is there to tell the whole or part of the story, and the idea of having acting during songs (possibly even rather than vice versa) has always been popular with me!
If you would like to get in touch via email, or any other means, then I would be delighted to!
Oh, and you said you couldn't spell Segway? 'Tis 'Segue' ;)
It made perfect sense. Thanks!
Mike
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Jim_L
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Posted: Thu Dec 27th, 2007 02:48 pm |
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Thank you! I'd only be brilliant if I could make at least a penny from my brilliance (in total). Alas, 'tis not to be it seems... *sob*
I will say this tho' - my greatest epiphany came during the production rehersals when i 'discovered' that when I wrote the script, I realized I was 'seeing' the story as if i were a camera. With the different views and whatnot...
I should have placed myself in the 'audience' when writing (that way your always maintaining a 'widescreen' viewpoint of what's going on, nothing gets hidden)
Thankfully, there was only one small 'thing' in the script I had to tweak in order to 'see' the action/behavior properly from the audiences viewpoint.
(ah, Mike, I just got your email...;>)
I think I also had an advantage of being very familiar with the stage/auditorium so everything written including the set was designed around the stage always trying to keep in mind that there had to be the bare minimum of props & costumes, no set changes, music by a single acoustic guitar and mainly have every actor have a reason for being there and saying something. Of course, 2 years of rewrites helped too, but I think the talking pirhana fish & tree would have went across pretty good...
But they & others had to finally go for the good of the rest (it would have been a great 4 hour show!).
But I'm happy with the story, it's something i'd like to see and I think when it really comes down to it, if the authors not wanting to see it (who else are you really writing it for?) then it's not worth writing.
-Jim
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