| Author | Post |
|---|
natstephenson Member

|
Posted: Wed Mar 5th, 2008 05:06 pm |
|
(Time of play is December 1999 - Two dim witted IT guys come in singing "Power Is So Delicious" as they go about taking apart the computer, and cleaning out the drawers. Dim Wit 1 picks up a mouse pad that he finds in the drawer)
Dim Wit 1: So, I had to, you know, download my entire, you know, music collection from, yah know, Napstah.
Dim Wit 2: I don't really like to, yah know, buy stuff using my, yah know credit card on the internet.
DW 1: Nah, it's free yah know.
DW2: Yeah but, you don't want your, yah know, identity stolen. Yah gotta be careful, yah know.
DW1: How bout this, yah know, mouse pad? Can I, yah know, take it?
DW2: It's not like she's, yah know, gonna use it. (The Dim witted techies laugh in an oafish manner)
DW 1: So anyways, it's like everything's, yah know. So, expensive these days.
DW 2: Yeah, like, you know, food. Food's expensive. Yah can't eat out everyday, yah know.
DW 1: It ain't healthy too, yah know.
DW 2: Yeah, too much processed food, yah know, ain't good for yah.
DW 1: And yah gotta stay in good health, yah know. Cause, going to the doctor is, yah know, expensive.
DW 2: And yah know, we gotta protect the environment. Yah know, global warming, and the polar bear, and yah know. Yah know. Global warming and stuff. Yah know?
TM: (The TM is watching on is dismay and he mentions to one of the temps) How can they be so callous? That was a real person who sat there! It's as though they don't care!
Florida: I guess it just comes with the territory.
TM: (the TM walks over to them and asks some questions in a princely way - as though he's sort of talking down to them in a princely Hamlet fashion)How long does a person usually last at this job?
DW2: (nonchalantly responding as they continue taking apart the desk) Usually, yah know, a few months maybe less. This one here had been, yah know, working at the same job for, yah know, about 8 years I believe. But those two consultants, yah know, the ones singing the fun song about power, they're calling, yah know, the shots now since the health care magician went, yah know, AWOL.
TM: The health care magician?
DW2: The president of the company! Don't you know anything. You must be, yah know, a temp. Anyway, yah know, he lost, yah know, his uhm, marbles and vanished off the, yah know, face of, yah know, the earth. Yah know. They say he probably, yah know, met his end by his, uh, own hand. (shaking his head) Since then the company, yah know, hasn't been the, yah know, the same. But those two consultants, yah know, say that with all the, yah know, lay offs they'll have this company, yah know, back on it's feet, yah know, in no time.
DW1: Wow! Look at this smiley face stress ball! It's... yah know... Awesome!
TM: (The TM grabs the stress ball from Dim Wit 1's hand) How can you play with that stress ball?! This once was someone's stress ball. A living breathing human being's stress ball. A beautiful person, who came here every day and sat in this very chair day in and day out helping people on this phone squeezing this stress ball to relieve her stress. Yes, this person live at this job. It was a part of her life and she was a part of this company. And now, you act as though she was never here! You act as if this smiley face stress ball didn't mean something to her! That she didn't have meaning! And...
HCM: (The HCM could sort of grab the ball out of is hand - the TM looks on dumb founded):
Let me see. [Takes the stress ball.] Alas, poor Yolanda!–I knew her,
Horatio; a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy: she
hath borne me on his back a thousand times; and now, how abhorred
in my imagination it is! my gorge rises at it. Here hung those
lips that I have kiss’d I know not how oft. Where be your gibes
now? your gambols? your songs? your flashes of merriment, that
were wont to set the table on a roar? Not one now, to mock your
own grinning? quite chap-fallen? Now, get you to my lady’s
chamber, and tell her, let her paint an inch thick, to this
favour she must come; make her laugh at that.–Pr’ythee, Horatio,
tell me one thing. Last edited on Wed Mar 5th, 2008 08:36 pm by natstephenson
|
Basso Member

| Joined: | Fri Feb 29th, 2008 |
| Location: | Canada |
| Posts: | 107 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| Mana: |     |
|
Posted: Wed Mar 5th, 2008 07:31 pm |
|
Waltz time is in 3/4. This means that every third beat you need a somewhat strong word to fit the downbeat. This song would need to start with "Good" as a pick-up to morning, which would land on the first beat of the bar, so that "mor" of morning would be emphasized, just as in speech.
BJ: (standing side by side BJ and Victoria sway in time with the music) Good morning employees! How the hell are yah? 11 syllables
Victoria: Oh what a glorious week we have in store for yah 13 syllables
My name is B.J. and this here is Victoria 12 syllables
BJ and Victoria: (BJ slaps the TM on his back and dips a doughnut in his coffee) Like a doughnut in coffee we're dipped in euphoria 13 syllables
An example of what I would do:
BJ: Good morning employees, now how the hell are ya? 12 syllables
V: What glory this week brings, chalk full of such wonduh 12 syllables
BJ: My name is B.J. and here is Victoria 12 syllables
V: Like donuts and coffee we're dipped in euphor'eeya 12
Euphoria must have final syllable squished together to keep to the pattern, a diphthong rather than two syllables. This is standard lyric writing, but you can syncopate beats and such, and then omit a syllable here and there.
The dialogue you present sounds fun, but you editorialize too much. It is on stage in a theatre and you don't have to tell us that the woman is fat, African-American and gay, or that the other one is of Asian descent. Why say what you can show? I feel the ebullience in your writing and it is only going to get better. You have an infectious enthusiasm and this will stand you in good stead, indeed.
Basso
Last edited on Wed Mar 5th, 2008 08:39 pm by Basso
|
Basso Member

| Joined: | Fri Feb 29th, 2008 |
| Location: | Canada |
| Posts: | 107 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| Mana: |     |
|
Posted: Wed Mar 5th, 2008 07:32 pm |
|
Seems you edited out the stuff I commented on. LOL Oh, well, off to the cyber-trash with it.
Basso
|
natstephenson Member

|
Posted: Wed Mar 5th, 2008 08:08 pm |
|
Thanks for the input! I erased the song not from the entire musical but from this forum because I really just want to hear people's input on the last part of the scene which is the part I just added. I appreciate your input nonetheless! The other dialogue has to be revamped to fit into the part I added. You definitely have a point though. My collaborator is the more musically experienced one and I'm sure that he'll make note (no pun intended) of making sure that the lyric has the right # of syllables and in the right area of emphasis with the beat, etc. I think that because my main influence is from rock songs, I don't put much emphasis on these important issues that affect musical theatre music as well as other music where clarity is of the upmost importance so that the lyric will be understood, etc. Anyway, thanks again!
Basso, I'll fix the other beginning part, and put it back in so that your response will make sense to people! I have to revise it alot though...
Last edited on Wed Mar 5th, 2008 08:20 pm by natstephenson
|
natstephenson Member

|
Posted: Wed Mar 5th, 2008 08:18 pm |
|
| Question: When is it appropriate to add descriptions of what the action is onstage or how the characters look? Last edited on Wed Mar 5th, 2008 08:35 pm by natstephenson
|
Basso Member

| Joined: | Fri Feb 29th, 2008 |
| Location: | Canada |
| Posts: | 107 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| Mana: |     |
|
Posted: Wed Mar 5th, 2008 09:34 pm |
|
TM: (The TM grabs the stress ball from Dim Wit 1's hand) How can you play with that stress ball?! This once was someone's stress ball. A living breathing human being's stress ball. A beautiful person, who came here every day and sat in this very chair day in and day out helping people on this phone squeezing this stress ball to relieve her stress. Yes, this person live at this job. It was a part of her life and she was a part of this company. And now, you act as though she was never here! You act as if this smiley face stress ball didn't mean something to her! That she didn't have meaning! And...
Don't discount getting the rhythm of your song lyrics right. It is great that you have a competent collaborator, but writing is all about rhythm. Understanding poetry, even when not a poet, is vital. Poetry is all about compression, distilling things down to their essence. This distillation creates a definite mood, it evokes something deep from within us. This in turn creates intensity, which in turn creates momentum. Every play needs some kind of momentum, something that at once suspends and compels the audience. It is what takes the banal and transforms it into magic.
In the above quote you could benefit by some compression. When he grabs the stress-ball he might say..."Give it to me, it isn't to be played with. This once belonged to someone. A living, breathing human." Then you don't have to repeat the word "stress-ball" over and over, again. There are many ways of doing it obviously. You could also have the character say, "This once belonged to someone...someone living, someone breathing, someone human." The choice is yours.
The next sentence you say...
A beautiful person, who came here every day and sat in this very chair day in and day out helping people on this phone squeezing this stress ball to relieve her stress.
...this is cumbersome. You repeat "day" and also "stress," try and find an alternate way of expressing this with less words. If you look, the choice is obvious.
The sentiment is funny, and charming, too. Look at all your dialogue and see what can be compressed and what isn't needed at all. You have great ideas, which is the rich soil from which all writing grows, and you are putting them down on paper; which is ever so important. Great start.
Basso
|
natstephenson Member

|
Posted: Thu Mar 6th, 2008 12:39 pm |
|
I was thinking about what you wrote some more and I was thinking there may be some exceptions to this rule. For example on the first lyric I wrote:
BJ: (standing side by side BJ and Victoria sway in time with the music) Good morning employees! How the hell are yah?
As you said, this is 11 syllables. But when sung to the music, it's like:
BJ: (standing side by side BJ and Victoria sway in time with the music) Good morning employees! [REST] How the hell are yah?
In other words, where one could sing another syllable, there's a rest musically speaking that is. Yet, I agree that when one has two many syllables in it, it can be too much of a mouth full, and won't be clear to the audience. So, my point is that I still believe that rhythmic oddities can be pretty interesting. Take the Beatles for example. They were not classically trained and it showed in their music with rhythmic irregularities that made it more interesting. On the other hand, does this translate into musical theatre? I would think in some cases yes and other's no. What do you think?
In regards to the edits you suggested for the dialogue, they are dead on. I'm going to play around with the dialogue a bit to tweak it, cut it down to the bone, and go from there, etc... Thanks again for you help.
|
Basso Member

| Joined: | Fri Feb 29th, 2008 |
| Location: | Canada |
| Posts: | 107 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| Mana: |     |
|
Posted: Thu Mar 6th, 2008 01:16 pm |
|
Yes, you are absolutely right, this is why I mentioned syncopation. Music does have it's own rhythm, and as such, a rest might fit in well for a syllable. However, that should really be determined by the composer/arranger. I have written two musicals and I have found in both cases that it was best to start off with a solid rhyming scheme. Of course, if you are doing free verse then you have other options. Your words seemed reminiscent of an "old-style" musical, both in content and meter; which might be my misunderstanding. Nevertheless, learn the rules, make it sound new, bend the rules, then break them, if you like.
I have done a fair bit of adjudicating at music festivals and I always tell the participants, "this is my opinion on this day, to your performance on this day. Think about it, take what you can from it, and if, at the end of the day it doesn't ring true...dispense with it."
You are off to a rollicking good start, and I hope you will post your revised version of the dialogue.
Basso
|
natstephenson Member

|
Posted: Fri Mar 7th, 2008 12:49 pm |
|
I wrote this on the train ride home from work. This is a revision of the following:
DW1: Wow! Look at this smiley face stress ball! It's... yah know... Awesome!
TM: (The TM grabs the stress ball from Dim Wit 1's hand) How can you play with that stress ball?! This once was someone's stress ball. A living breathing human being's stress ball. A beautiful person, who came here every day and sat in this very chair day in and day out helping people on this phone squeezing this stress ball to relieve her stress. Yes, this person live at this job. It was a part of her life and she was a part of this company. And now, you act as though she was never here! You act as if this smiley face stress ball didn't mean something to her! That she didn't have meaning! And...
Here's my revision:
DW1: Wow! Look at this smiley face stress ball! It's... yah know... Awesome!
Temp Messiah (TM): Give me that you fool! It is not a toy! This once was someone's. Someone whose heart beat. Whose breast heaved and sighed, whose delicate hand held this grinning sphere, squeezing its tension, releasing its pain. Whose merry laughter brought smiles to each face. Laugh for me again dear departed damsel. Ha ha ha ha ha!
DW2: What the frig! She's, yah know, laid off! Not dead!
DW1: Weirdo.
TM: (The Dim Wits exit) Well, she might as well be! Insenstive ruffians!
Last edited on Mon Mar 10th, 2008 04:42 pm by natstephenson
|
 Current time is 06:48 am | |
|
|
|